Tuesday, February 20, 2007

Longhorn Server: Broadcom networking woes on 9th gen Dell servers including my PowerEdge 2900.#

With the recent February CTP release of Longhorn Server I finally decided that since my Dell PowerEdge 2900 hasn't really been fully configured. It'd be a good time to give Vista... err Longhorn Server a shot.

I'm still waiting in limbo for my fresh install with Exchange 2007 (waiting on that one little app that will make it all work like magic) on Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition x64 R2 (PLEASE PLEASE let them have some common sense with naming sometime this century).

The install of Longhorn Server went perfectly. I didn't even have to provide drivers for my Dell PERC 5/i RAID controller which is awesome and as expected. The entire install took only 15 minutes which is great considering it's a quad core server with 4GB of 667MHz FB-DIMM's. I noticed right away that the no network connection icon was down there in the system tray so I immediately went to Device Manager. The two embedded NIC's (Broadcom NetXtreme II 5708C's) were just showing as Ethernet adapters.

Figuring first that the 2003 x64 drivers would work I went to the big RAID driver I've got, it wasn't there. No biggy, it's probably not mounted. Popped open Disk Management saw 3265GB (RAW) and nearly died of a heart attack. Remaining calm (knowing Microsoft couldn't have just done something so stupid as wipe my drive), I gave the unmounted partition a drive letter and crossed my fingers as it was assigned to R: and showed the right amount of free space and NTFS. Now I'm sure the PM that thought this was a good idea had the best intentions but for the love of god man think again. Don't you ever scare me or anyone else like that again. RAW == brand new drive / empty drive / drive with nothing on it. Don't you dare say that my 3TB array is empty. List it as UNMOUNTED and pop a bloody dialog stating that I need to assign a drive letter. The last thing you want is some system admin working away on 100's of systems to just format a drive with critical data on it.

I tried installing the NIC drivers from Dell and they didn't work. I then tried the drivers from Broadcom for the NetXtreme II 5708C and they didn't work. I then tried whatever Broadcom drivers came in Longhorn Server and those didn't work. Finally I Googled and found, this, so I then tried the RIS drivers and unfortunately those didn't work either. In fact Windows wouldn't even boot complaining about the driver's digital signature being unverified. So after trying every possible driver my 20 minutes with Longhorn Server is over and I'm going back to Server 2003. Maybe with Beta 3, maybe once Broadcom get there butts in motion (this isn't a bloody Creative soundcard guys it's a critical enterprise level NIC that's shipped on nearly ALL 9th gen Dell servers, you've got Vista RTM get moving, Server shouldn't be much of a leap). Clearly the issue is with the NDIS v5 Broadcom are using. And it's probably also the root cause of all the issues I've been having with Virtual Sever 2005 and this NIC back on Windows Server 2003 as well.

There's a part of me that just wants to give in and buy the Intel Pro/1000PT Dual Port PCIe x4 NIC and have the drivers built in and not have to worry but I'm not about to waste $170 on another NIC when I've got one that should be working perfectly. What a headache. :-(

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Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:27:28 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) #    Comments [3]

Monday, February 26, 2007 2:20:25 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00)
Excellent post - I had same problem with RAW NTFS disk that was formatted and worked fine on XP, this was some months ago and I just had to move disk back to XP machine - when such situations happen then one won't exactly want to risk data on disk by doing things to it, but thanks to your excellent post I just changed drive letter and it all worked just fine: you just saved me lots of bother having to move disk to another machine, and I am sure other people will thank you for that too :)
Monday, May 21, 2007 4:48:10 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00)
Has anyone worked out which Broadcom Drivers will work? I have spent weeks trying to find a solution to this issue which apears to be a common one amongst Longhorn users.

Peter B
Peter Boyle
Monday, May 21, 2007 4:50:08 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00)
I finally got Dell to cave and send me the Intel Pro/1000PT Dual Port PCIe x4 NIC free of charge. That was my solution. So I basically gave up my search and won't use Broadcom at all until things are resolved. I prefer the Intel NIC's anyway.
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